Through the Grapevine
Holy Infant Church
Our weekly podcast from Holy Infant Catholic Church in Durham, North Carolina.
Episodes
Journey Together in Hope
Send us Fan MailJeff and Michalene discuss the beginning of the season of Lent and Pope Francis' 2025 Lenten message, "Let us journey together in hope." Click here to read the full message from Pope Francis.
2024 Christmas Gift Guide
Send us Fan MailEmail us with a gift idea at [email protected] for a chance to win a signed CD of Sarah Hart's new album "All the Earth Alive Rejoicing"Mother-in-lawM: Body product from Glory & ShineJ: 3 mo. Herbal Apprentice subscription boxGrandkidsM: Holy Pals PJsJ: Reading Bug Box subscription, personalizedBabyM: Montessori Spinning Devotion DrumJ: Radio Flyer Classic Push Walker WagonTeensM: Saints stickers (or socks!)J: Cameo from fav celebrity, Calm app, EarFun earbudsFolks who entertainM: Drinking With the Saints bookJ: Wavelength two-team party gameChefsM: Dining With the Saints cookbookJ: Salt, Fat, Acid, Heat cookbookHandymanM: Atolla laser distance measureJ: Salt, Fat, Acid, Heat cookbookAspiring SaintJ: Word on Fire liturgy of the hours subscriptionGreen ThumbM: Garden sign from J: Mickey's Mini Garden plant from EpcottAnimal LoverM: Paws and Pray pet items to remind parents to be dogged in their faith J: Happy Tooned pet disneyfication image
A "Flight" Across the Diocese - Celebrating the Centennial
Send us Fan MailAs we celebrate the 100th anniversary of the Diocese of Raleigh, Jeff and Michalene recall some of the interesting history of Catholicism in North Carolina by enjoying various related brews:"Nightcap" from Edmund's Oast Brewing in CharlestonA Bavarian Ale from Kloster Andechs monastery near MunichA Carolina gold lager from Mad Mole Brewing in Wilmington"Making Quiet Noise" from Edit Beer Co in RaleighJoin us next month for several special Advent and Christmas season episodes. We wish everyone a very Happy Thanksgiving and safe travels!
Podcast Update
Send us Fan MailJeff and Michalene talk about future plans for the podcast and moving to a schedule where there is about one episode per month rather than weekly. Thank you so much for listening and supporting us!
Exclusive Synod Report from Rome with Br. Mickey McGrath
Send us Fan MailThis week Michalene and Jeff catch up with Br. Mickey McGrath who is in Rome during the second Synod on Synodality meeting. Br. Mickey got to observe the proceedings for a short time last week. Click here to see some of the illustrations Br. Mickey showed us. We recommend following the Synod on the website Where Peter Is. Click here to go to their guide to the Synod, updated almost daily.Michalene's unpaid ad this week is for the book Visio Divina: Praying with Sacred Art.
Dignitas Infinita: A Compendium of the Church's Teaching on Human Dignity
Send us Fan MailThis week Jeff and Michalene discuss "Dignitas Infinita", a declaration on human dignity released by the Vatican's doctrinal office last spring with Pope Francis' input and approval. Click here to view the document.Click here to listen to what the big bang sounded like (over the course of a few hundred thousand years).
History of Holy Infant: The Epic & Unabridged Version
Send us Fan MailAs we celebrate our 54th anniversary on October 4th, we're re-sharing our two-part oral history episode from last season into one epic listening event. This episode is dedicated to our beloved Irene Dunbar, a founding member of Holy Infant who passed away this week, and who was an invaluable source of stories and information for us as we put this project together. We love you, Irene!
Animals & Theology with Rondy Elliot
Send us Fan MailThis week Jeff speaks with Holy Infant parishioner Rondy Elliot about the place of animals in scripture and our Catholic theological tradition, as well as the state of the treatment of farm animals in the modern world and how we might start bringing our faith into the decisions we make. Rondy provided a few suggestions for further reading:- For Love of Animals by Charles Comosy- Dominion: The Power of Man, the Suffering of Animals, and the Call to Mercy by Matthew Scully- Christianity and the Rights of Animals by Andrew Linzey
Unbound: Walking with the Poor & Marginalized
Send us Fan MailThis week we speak to Tim Deveney, Senor Director of Outreach of Unbound, an organization that partners sponsors in the US to children and elders in need in the developing world. Fr. David Noone will be with us September 28/29 for Masses at Holy Infant to speak more about the important work of Unbound and how we can become a sponsor. Be sure to visit their website at www.unbound.org
State of the Parish Fall 2024 with Fr. Robert
Send us Fan MailThis week we catch up with Fr. Robert for our regular pastor update. Next week join us as we speak with Tim Deveney, Senior Director of Outreach of Unbound, an organization that connects sponsors to children in need in 17 developing countries. Fr. David Noone of Unbound will be visiting Holy Infant the weekend of Sep 28/29 at all Masses to talk about how we might get involved in this great organization.
A Joyful Eucharistic Congress with Brian and Roberta Brave
Send us Fan MailThis week Jeff speaks with longtime Holy Infant parishioners Brian and Roberta Brave who attended the National Eucharistic Congress in Indianapolis this past July. You can learn more about the congress and the ongoing Eucharistic revival in the United States here: www.eucharisticrevival.org
Behind the Scenes with the Music Ministry
Send us Fan MailThis week we go behind the scenes of a rehearsal to hear how the choir learns and works on songs for the liturgy, as well as hear from individual choir members on their favorite memories from the past year and why they enjoy being part of the music ministry. If you're interested in learning more about our music ministry, visit our website: https://holyinfantchurch.org/music-ministryJoin us next week as we hear from parishioners Brian and Roberta Brave and their experience in Indianapolis at the Eucharistic Congress in July.Music shared under One License #A-709958
The Olympic Experience with Anna Lee
Send us Fan MailThis week Jeff spoke with Anna Lee, our Assistant Director of Catechetical Leadership, about her trip to the Paris Olympics this summer. Click here to see some of Anna's photos.Next week get a behind-the-scenes look (well, listen) of our music ministry!
Happy, Free, Confused, and Lonely in the Best Way: Anna Lee, Welcome to the Staff!
Send us Fan MailToday we onboard our new Assistant Director of Catechetical Leadership, Anna Lee!Next week tune in as we go behind the scenes of the choir and hear from many of our musicians about what they enjoy most about being part of the music ministry.
Hold on to the Memories: Amber's Exit Interview
Send us Fan MailThis week as Amber leaves our parish staff, Jeff conducts a mandatory exit interview and we remember and reflect on the last two years at Holy Infant, including some podcast highlights. We enjoyed the red blend from Truth and Valor while we chatted.
Taste and See: Communion Music with Sarah Hart
Send us Fan MailAs we celebrate the great feast of Corpus Christi, Sarah Hart was kind enough to come back on the show to talk about music during the reception of Communion.Next week we'll share the Amber tribute episode that was supposed to come out last week, but there was just so much about Amber to celebrate, it was taking some extra time to get done!Join us in June as we wrap up the third season of Through the Grapevine!
Celebrating Pentecost in Prayer & Action at Holy Infant
Send us Fan MailAs we celebrate this Pentecost weekend and conclude the Easter season, we check in with Lloyd Edwards, who coordinates our Bread for the World letter writing campaign to congress advocating for policies that will help to end hunger in our country and around the world. Then we share our episode from last year exploring the music of the Holy Spirit, from the ancient to the contemporary, with musicologist and composer Jonathan Kregor from the University of Cincinnati.
Like Christmas Morning: Receiving the Sacraments at the Vigil with Trevion Woodward
Send us Fan MailThis week Michalene talks with Trevion Woodward, one of our JYM teens who was Baptized, Confirmed, and received First Communion at the Easter Vigil after going through the RCIA over the past year.In the intro we enjoyed the Cotton Candy Original flavor wine from Duplin Wine Cellars in Rose Hill, NC
Anointed in the Spirit: Confirmation through the eyes of Keira Hayes
Send us Fan MailThis week we recall our own confirmations before hearing from Keira Hayes, who was just confirmed by Bishop Luis last month.Next week we speak with Trevion Woodward, one of our JYMers who was also Baptized, Confirmed, and received First Communion at the Easter Vigil this year.
Babies, Baptism Hosts, Brother Mickey, and Bruckner... all in one show
Send us Fan MailThis weekend April 27/28 we're excited to welcome Br. Mickey McGrath back to Holy Infant for several special presentations. So we're replaying an interview Jeff did with Br. Mickey last summer at the NPM convention in Reno. But first, Michalene talks with Leanne Woodward and Jenny Dick from our Baptism Host ministry about how rewarding it is to serve families at Mass when they bring their child for baptism.Next week Amber will speak with Keira Hayes, one of 20 of our young members confirmed by Bishop Luis earlier this month.
Good Light with Josh Hey of Yes Solar Solutions
Send us Fan MailThis week we speak with Josh Hey of Yes Solar Solutions based in Cary, the contractor that recently installed our solar panels on the roof of the church.Amber was inspired to try the Rose from Elouan Winemakers (Elouan means "good light")Check out the Apostolic Exhortation "Laudate Deum" offered by Pope Francis last October on the Feast of St Francis Assisi assessing where we standing with the climate crisis and care of creation a decade after Laudato Si.
Feeding the Multitudes at the Durham Community Food Pantry
Send us Fan MailThis week Michalene speaks with two parishioners, Joe and Marisa Spina, who regularly help out at the Durham Community Food Pantry. Be sure to bring your donation to "fill the truck" to the Holy Infant campus this Saturday, April 13th!
Rotten or Fresh? Narnia on the Silver Screen in 2005
Send us Fan MailThis week Michalene, Amber and Jeff return to Narnia to compare and contrast the 2005 film version of "The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe" with the book, along with other musings on the film.Our wine of choice this week was "Triple Springs", a sweet muscadine white wine from Rock of Ages vineyard in Rock Hurdle Mills, NC.We'll be on break next week for the Easter Octave, but will return with a new episode on April 11th.
Entering Into the Holiest Days of the Year
Send us Fan MailAfter a short intro with some of the highlights for Holy Week this year at Holy Infant, we re-share our audio tour of Holy Week from last year featuring liturgist Andrew Cassad's commentary with music, prayers, and readings from the liturgies.We have a special episode for Holy Week next week as we provide a commentary on the film version of The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe to put a bow on our Lent book series.
Aslan Died for This
Send us Fan MailFr. Robert joins Amber, Michalene, and Jeff to discuss the exciting concluding chapters of C.S. Lewis' classic "The Lion, the Witch, and Wardrobe" as we close out our Lent book reading series.
Would Aslan Order a Shamrock Shake?
Send us Fan MailThis week we're joined by our own Fr. Jack Kelly, discussing chapters 10-13 of "The Lion, the Witch, and Wardrobe" by C.S. Lewis. We enjoyed Shamrock Shakes, available for a limited time at your favorite McDonald's in Durham, Paris, or possibly even Narnia.Join us next week for the exciting conclusion to our Lent book series!
At the Name of Aslan
Send us Fan MailWe continue our Lent reading of "The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe" by C.S. Lewis, discussing chapters 6-9. Michalene, Amber, and Jeff are joined by Lauren Sale, Producing Artistic Director of the Vault Theater. The Vault Theater is presenting an innovative retelling of "The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe" right here at Holy Infant in the DeSales Center, Sunday, March 3, at 3pm. Purchase tickets online.This week we were drinking Collaboration Without Representation Chocolate Raspberry Imperial Milk Stout from Deep River Brewing in Clayton (because there's an angry beaver on the can!).Join us next week as we continue reading chapters 10-13.
What's Your Turkish Delight?
Send us Fan MailThis week we begin our Lent book series, discussing chapters 1-5 of C.S. Lewis' "The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe" with our special returning guest Fr. Jim Sabak, Franciscan friar and director of the office of worship for the Diocese of Raleigh.Our beverage of choice was Edmund Oat's Sour Concord Grape ale.Join us next week as we discuss chapters 6-9 with Lauren Sale, artistic director of the Vault Theater, which is performing a two-person version of "The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe" at Holy Infant Sunday, March 3.
A History of Holy Infant - Part 2
Send us Fan MailJeff and Michalene present part two of their oral history bonus episodes, in the works since the summer. Thank you to all of our special guests: Irene Dunbar, Carol Egan, Carol Owen, Lynn Sale, Fr. John McGee, and Fr. Robert Rutledge. A special thanks as well to Diana Zwilling for her help visiting the diocesan archives. Over the next few days we'll be posting more documents and pictures of many of the events, people, and places mentioned in the podcast on our website: https://holyinfantchurch.org/oral-history
Sarah Hart
Send us Fan MailThis week we're pleased to share Amber's conversation with singer and songwriter Sarah Hart, who will visit Holy Infant the weekend of March 9-10. Sarah has written many of the favorite songs we sing for Mass including The Feast Meant For Everyone, Blessed Are You, The House That Love is Building, You Alone, and Hallelujah is Our Song, to name a few.This week we drank a Rosé from Songbird Wine Cellars. Thanks Ruth Stanton for the seemingly bottomless carrot cake from Favor Desserts bakery in Durham.Stay tuned next week for part two of our parish oral history podcast episode!"The Feast Meant for Everyone" © 2019, Tom Booth and Sarah Hart. Published by Spirit & Song®, a division of OCP. All rights reserved. Podcast with permission under ONE LICENSE #A-709958. All rights reserved.
A History of Holy Infant - Part 1
Send us Fan MailJeff and Michalene finally present part one of their oral history bonus episodes, in the works since the summer. They're joined by founding parishioners Irene Dunbar and Carol Egan.View documents and pictures of many of the events, people, and places mentioned in the podcast on our website: https://holyinfantchurch.org/oral-history
Getting to Know St Francis de Sales
Send us Fan MailThis week we feature an interview with Brother Dan Wisniewski, an Oblate of St Francis de Sales, about St Francis de Sales' life and spiritual legacy that continues through the ministry of the oblates. We'll celebrate the feast of St Francis de Sales at all Masses the weekend of January 27 & 28.Our wine this week is a Cabernet Franc from Shelton Vineyards in the Yadkin Valley of North Carolina.Michalene's unpaid ad is for Bombas Socks (they are apparently very comfortable).Jeff's recommends listening to the January 5th episode of the Ezra Klein podcast on our attention, how we can better use it and take care of it in our current times where it is constantly under pressure and demand.Amber recommends this Aletia article on a monastic approach to motherhood. Be sure to tune in next week for part 1 of our parish oral history project. Until then, you heard it here first!
Viva Santo Niño!
Send us Fan MailHappy New Year! This week we share part of our episode from last year introducing the tradition of Santo Niño and how we celebrate here at Holy Infant. Bishop Zarama will be with us this Sunday for the 11:30 Mass to preside for Mass and our Santo Niño celebration!Next week will be part 1 of our two-part parish oral history project.
A Milk & Cookies Christmas Spectacular
Send us Fan MailDiscuss the merits of milk and cookies, participate in an audio Christmas candy taste test, learn to play Angels We Have Heard on High on the organ, and hear our musicians preparing for Christmas on this week's special episode. Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, and see you all in 2024!!
Bishop Luis Zarama
Send us Fan MailThis week we are pleased to share this interview with our own Bishop Luis Zarama of the Diocese of Raleigh on a wide range of topics, including his story of becoming a priest and bishop, his vision for how we can celebrate the centenary of our diocese by going back to our mission-oriented roots, and the role for each of us has in a Church that can better minister and serve in the 21st century.Today we were drinking a red blend by Hope Tree in California.
Magnificat! The Music of Mary with Fr. Michael Joncas
Send us Fan MailThis week Jeff shares an interview with Fr. Michael Joncas on the music of Mary that we encounter during these days of Advent and Christmas. We enjoyed the Prophecy Pinot Grigio during this week's episode.Join us next week for our special sit-down interview with Bishop Zarama at the Catholic Center on a wide range of issues for our diocese and church!
Pope Francis in the Light of Ignatian Spirituality with Fr. Phil Hurley
Send us Fan MailThis week Jeff shares a conversation with Fr. Phil Hurley, a Jesuit priest and chaplain at Loyola University in Maryland, about Ignatian Spirituality and how Pope Francis formation and life as a Jesuit has influenced him as a leader and the direction he is setting for the Church.In honor of our Argentinian-born pope, we are drinking "Natural Sweet White Wine by Piattelli" from the northern region of Argentina. Michalene recommends making a liturgical new years resolution as we're beginning Advent this weekend.Jeff recommends the Vox music player app and website that allows you to upload high-quality audio files, such as from your CD collection, and stream them on your phone.
Thankful for Our Listeners & Not Getting Hit by the Cork
Send us Fan MailThis week Amber (plus a special tiny guest) is back with us as we celebrate 50 episodes and one year of podcasting! Thank you to our listeners, we do this for you. Looking forward to another year of bringing great stories and guests to our community! Happy Thanksgiving!
All About the Process: The Synod on Synodality & Why You Should Care
Send us Fan MailYou might be inclined to tune out to this episode about a meeting in Rome about more meetings, but don't! This week Michalene and Jeff dive into the 2021-24 Synod on Synodality, especially the results of the first general assembly of the synod held last month in Rome. This process is charting the path of the Church for this century, and it requires the participation of all the baptized! See below for links to some of the documents and articles referenced.Michalene recommends the Intermingle wine that we should have been drinking for this episode, will have to try it next time we're talking Synod!Synthesis Report of the Oct 4-29 General Assembly (the document we discuss in the episode)General Continental ReportNorth American Continental ReportSynod Preparatory Document"Does the Synod Threaten Bishops' Authority" podcast episode"Synod Debrief with Fr. James Martin"Article on where there was the most convergence at SynodArticle on where there was the most divergence at SynodShort video on what comes next
Faith & Food with Fr. Leo Patalinghug
Send us Fan MailMichalene speaks with Fr. Leo Patalinghug about his life and how his two interests of faith and food came together in his Plating Grace ministry, as we anticipate his visit to Holy Infant in December.Today we were drinking the Italian Zaccagnini Montepulciano D'Abruzzo red wine.This week Jeff suggests being intentional looking at the pictures of our departed loved ones on the tables in the narthex, and maybe choosing a face to remember in prayer this month of all holy souls.Michalene recommends the Blessed is She Advent devotional on the Good Shepherd.Next week we're going to dive into the report from the general assembly of the Synod on Synodality from last month, and where we are headed next as a synodal church.
Share Your Christmas, But Don't Put Up Your Tree Yet!
Send us Fan MailAfter Jeff and Michalene the proper time to put up one's "Christmas" tree, we hear from Trish Moorman, coordinator of our fantastic "Share Your Christmas" gift giving to the needy annual outreach ministry. Be sure to tune in next week when we have a conversation with the one and only Fr. Leo Patalinghug about his impending visit to Holy Infant in December!
Having a Blast with the Yarn Ministry
Send us Fan MailBundle up & get cozy! On this week's episode, Michalene chats with Fran Kissell and Carol Vogel, two members of Holy Infant's Yarn Ministry, about knitting, community, and keeping those in need warm & cozy! This week we got to try some real Apple Cider Michalene brought back from the Carter Mountain Orchard in Charlottesville, VAJeff's unpaid ad is for the new book "Sing, Memory: The Remarkable Story of the Man Who Saved the Music of the Nazi Camps" by Makana Eyre.Michalene's unpaid ad is for observing the feast of Saint Pope John Paul II. Here are some fun pictures of the coolest saint. She also reminds us to bring our pictures of our departed loved ones to place on the altar of remembrance in the narthex starting this weekend.
Souls & Saints of November
Send us Fan MailThis week Michalene and Jeff talk all things November, the month of all holy souls, including All Saints Day, All Souls Day, praying for the dead throughout the month, and thinking about our own funerals.We were drinking the Bushy Fork Red muscadine wine from Rock of Ages Winery in Road Hurdle Mills, NC.You can learn more about funeral pre-planing on our website by clicking here.Our unpaid ad this week is for our Plating Grace event with Fr. Leo Patalinghug Sunday, December 10th. Spaces are filling up fast, don't miss out. Click here for registration.
All About Our Organ with the Designer - Rudy Lucente
Send us Fan MailThis week begins with Michalene grilling Jeff on our new organ and some of the rearrangement that will take place for the music ministry in the church. Then Jeff speaks with Rudy Lucente, a renowned organist in the Philadelphia area, who designed the organ being built for us by Allen Organ in Pennsylvania.The music before and after the interview with Rudy are him playing his home instrument which he talks about.This week we were drinking Three Mills Pumpkin Spice Mulled WineMichalene recommends the documentary "Sour Grapes" about the fine and rare wine auction market centering around a counterfeiter who befriended the rich and powerful and sold millions of dollars of fraudulent wine through the top auction houses.Jeff recommends checking out the YouTube playlist with lots of good organ content, including some music that might surprise you. Get to it from the new organ page on our parish website: https://holyinfantchurch.org/organNext week we're talking all things November... the month of the holy souls...
Disneyland for Dogs: A Visit to Saving Grace Animal Adoption Headquarters
Send us Fan MailThis week Jeff and Fr. Robert went on location to the Saving Grace Animal Adoption Organization in Wake Forest, where Fr. Robert's dogs Bolli and Tucker were adopted. We are led on a tour by Heather, then sit down to talk with Molly Goldston, the founder and director of Saving Grace.This week we were drinking Our Dog Blue riesling from Chateau Morrisette in the Virginia mountains.
Fall 2023 State of the Parish with Fr. Robert
Send us Fan MailThis week Fr. Robert joins Jeff and Michalene to talk about the various projects going on around the parish this fall, and upcoming plans.Our wine of choice was the Vinter's Reserve Chardonnay. Join us next week as Jeff and Fr. Robert take a tour of the Saving Grace animal adoption farm in Wake Forest, where Fr. Robert adopted his two dogs, Bolli and Tucker.
One Way In, One Way Out: A Guide to Our New Prayer Labyrinth
Send us Fan MailThis week we speak with parishioners Karen Carr and Justin Losey about the completion of the Prayer Labyrinth they helped construct right here at Holy Infant! Click here to learn more about our new labyrinth.This week Michalene picked out a Moscato for us to drink from The Path Wines in California.Michalene recommends the "Walk - Don't Fall" presentation Wednesday, October 11 at 9:45am in the DeSales Center. This will include information about fall prevention from an occupational therapist, followed by an introduction and chance to walk the Prayer Labyrinth.Jeff recommends attending the Diocese of Raleigh Eucharistic Congress Saturday, October 21 at the Raleigh Convention Center. Click here for more information and to register.Next week Fr. Robert will be on with us to give some updates on what's going on around the parish this fall.
Welcome One Another as Christ Welcomed You: Kathy Bartlett and Amy Mackin on Refugee Resettlement
Send us Fan MailOne of our newest ministries is refugee resettlement, when our parish assists and accompanies a refugee family as they establish a new life in our community. This week we speak with Kathy Bartlett and Amy Mackin, two active members of this ministry, about their experience and how the whole parish is involved in this work.Michalene also shares some insights on our faith development programs as those groups start meeting again this week.Today we were drinking a savignon blanc from Mason wine cellars in the Napa Valley.Michalene recommends the Blessed is She Burn Eucharistic Revival which is October 6 at St. Thomas More in Chapel Hill. She shared this quote from St. Therese of Lisieux: "There is but one thing to be done here below: to love Jesus, and to save souls for Him that He may be more loved. We must not let slip the smallest opportunity of giving Him joy. We must refuse Him nothing."Jeff recommends the book "It Takes What It Takes: How to Think Neutrally and Gain Control of Your Life" by Trevor Moawad.Next week: Did you know Holy Infant is about to have an outdoor prayer labyrinth? What is a prayer labyrinth anyways? Find out as we talk to Karen Carr and Justin Losey, two of the parishioners behind the prayer labyrinth project. Until then...
Discovering God: Mary Pat Heelan on the Catechesis of the Good Shepherd
Send us Fan MailThis week Michalene shares a beautiful conversation with her CGS mentor and instructor, Mary Pat Heelen of the Diocese of Worcester. Learn about how our preschoolers at Holy Infant discover God in the Catechesis of the Good Shepherd atrium, where this model of faith development comes from, and how it can enrich not only our children, but our whole community.Our unpaid ads for this episode...Abiding Together podcast season 12 episode 21 on the JPII apostolic exhortation Christifideles LaiciZincHouse Winery & Brewery in DurhamThe song "September Grass" by James TaylorNext week we're pleased to have on the show Kathy Bartlett and Amy Mackin, parishioners who are part of our relatively new refugee resettlement ministry!
Back to School with Patrick Kurz of Immaculata
Send us Fan MailThis week we share an interview Amber conducted with her former boss Patrick Kurz, the principal of Immaculata Catholic School in Durham.Our wine of choice for this episode is the Liquid Geography Mencía Rosé Jeff's recommendation is to join the choir! First rehearsal is September 6th, but we're always happy to welcome new musicians (like Michalene and David).