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Indy-based Round Room rolling in growth surge, nearing 1,600 stores
Fishers-based Round Room LCC is the sixth-largest private company in Indiana. You’re forgiven for not knowing the name, although the brand it represents is one of the most recognizable in the United States and provides goods and services to more than 100 million people. And Round Room is in the midst of a major growth spurt that could put it higher on the list of Indiana private companies, although it’s unlikely to change from what owner and CEO Scott Moorehead calls “the best company that nobody knows about in the state.” The easiest way to explain Round Room is to say that it is one of the nation’s largest independent wireless retailers with exclusive agreements with Verizon. It currently owns or has franchised about 1,550 stores in about 45 states. The sign on the outside will say Verizon, and the interior will look like any other Verizon store, but there’s decent chance just about anywhere in the country that you’re walking in a Round Room store. And the numbers are growing fast: Round Room counted about 1,300 stores at the beginning of this year, and Moorehead projects the number will be somewhere in the 1,600 to 1,650 range by the end of the year with annual revenue close to $3 billion. Round Room’s employee count is just under 3,000 people, including about 500 added just this year. Moorehead returns to the IBJ Podcast this week to discuss what’s driving the growth spurt. He also explains why selling phones and wireless service is a recession-resistant business. As Moorehead explains, artificial intelligence is now an important part of the business. And he goes into some detail describing Round Room’s evolving relationship with Verizon, currently the 28th largest member of the Fortune 500.
Veteran tech execs launch startup for evaluating executive teams — and AI is helping them go it alone
Adam Weber and Andrew Clark seem to be cut from similar cloth. Before working in the technology sector, they both earned degrees in the liberal arts at Ball State University. The eventually worked together at tech firm BlueBridge Digital, which was co-founded by Weber. Clark joined Weber again at the firm Emplify, which was an evolved version of BlueBridge and was acquired in 2021 for $50 million. Weber and Clark knew they enjoyed working with each other and kept their eyes peeled for the right idea. They founded it in February and made the decision to team up over dinner. Named Helm, the company evaluates executive teams to find points of friction that can slow growth. Helm then helps the CEO improve group dynamics and accelerate performance. Weber and Clark work closely together, in part because new artificial intelligence tools can handle responsibilities that would have required as many as 20 full-time employees just five years ago. The tools also have helped eliminate major startup costs. In fact, Weber and Clark have no plans for the foreseeable future to hire a third person or to seek investor capital. They’re a two-man band. In this week’s edition of the podcast, Weber and Clark discuss the ways creating a startup has changed in the age of AI and why they enjoy working together. They also address the challenges of evaluating top executives and the five main signals they apply to client companies.
The vision for reshaping downtown’s west side – and how it could look from a reconfigured West Street
On Friday, IBJ reported that a coalition of Indianapolis business, civic and institutional leaders is developing an ambitious plan to reshape downtown’s west side, including a near-complete reworking of West Street and major changes to the street’s connections with Interstates 65 and 70. The concept calls for lowering sections of West Street, recessing portions of the interstates at the two gateways and building streets, pedestrian connections and public spaces above some of the roadways. Led by the Indy Chamber, the coalition is fleshing out its vision and soon could face the formidable task of getting buy-in from the state, the city, two major universities, some of Indy’s biggest employers and other property owners. This might be a tough one to get your arms around, so this week’s podcast features two interviews with people who were close to the process of conceptualizing the so-called Downtown West Innovation District. IBJ Editor Lesley Weidenbener sat down with Matt Mindrum, the CEO of the Indy Chamber, to discuss the big picture, the potential economic benefit and the complex vision for financing the project. Then you’ll hear podcast host Mason King’s interview with Brenda Freije, president and CEO of the transit-focused nonprofit Rethink Coalition, about specific changes proposed for four sections of West Street.
How did an Indy logistics guru turn his hobby into an heirloom-style watch brand?
Once upon a time, our relationship with consumer technology started and ended with how we could tell time. In the 1800s, your pocket watch or your wristwatch might have been the most complicated and vital piece of technology you owned, and folks passed them down over generations as signature artifacts of the original owners. Today, watches or the personal devices we use to tell time are unimaginable complex and versatile, compared to a century ago, but they’re surprisingly disposable. Their obsolescence is practically guaranteed within five years. No one is bragging about refurbishing and wearing their father’s iPhone as a cherished keepsake. Adam Fleddermann approached the watch-making industry from two directions. He brought a deep respect for the role mechanical watches used to play in business and family life while leveraging his up-to-the-minute professional expertise in logistics. Over a few years he turned a hobby into a family business, designing his own watch models, sourcing parts from the global supply chain and arranging to have them assembled by artisans in Kokomo. His brand of watches inspired by German culture is known as Fleddermann Von Rieste, and one of the latest models is a limited-edition timepiece licensed by Purdue University using several of the school’s signature design elements. In this week’s edition of the IBJ Podcast, Fleddermann discusses the entrepreneurial origins of his Indianapolis-based company during the pandemic and his drive to create sophisticated timepieces that can survive to become multigenerational heirlooms. He also discusses finding the right entry point when nearly everyone owns a device that tells time and the high-end watch market is populated with several famous brands.
Pigasus Pictures takes big swing with $10M movie ‘Little Five,’ filmed in Bloomington
For its 10th movie, Bloomington-based Pigasus Pictures has mounted its biggest production yet, with a $10 million budget and a key role played by one of Hollywood’s biggest stars. Indiana has more than its fair share of inspirational sports movies, and Pigasus is diving deep into the genre with “Little Five,” the story of the first Women’s Little 500 bicycle race on Indiana University’s Bloomington campus. Pigasus is the lead production company, but it received a boost from co-producer Somewhere Pictures, founded by Oscar-winning actress Anne Hathaway. Pigasus CEO Zachary Spicer returns to the IBJ Podcast this week to talk about one of the recent low points in his career that inspired him to develop a movie about the first Women’s Little 500. He discusses the evolution of the concept, raising the $10 million and his longtime connection with Hathway that led to her company’s participation. He also reminisces about filming in Bloomington, where he attended IU, and how the football team’s national championship helped the production team. Plus, we get the lowdown on the Pigasus project “Trash Mountain,” that debuted last Friday at the Toronto International Film Festival.
Pete the Planner on rising bond yields and why the future ‘is starting to look scary’
The financial media’s laser pointer is often so jittery that it’s tough to figure out which developments are most important to your financial life. The topic that received the most focus last week was rising bond yields. As we’ll discuss in this week’s podcast, that issue could have serious legs, and its feet appear to be pointing downhill. You might be surprised to know that the yield on a 10-year U.S. Treasury bond is considered by many to be the most important interest rate in the world. It plays a big role in determining your cost when you borrow money – from a mortgage to a car loan to a credit card. And news that yields are rising means that bonds are falling out of favor in the marketplace, indicating there’s considerable anxiety over the government’s ability to handle inflation, budget deficits and the war in Iran, among several concerns. In this week’s edition of the IBJ Podcast, Peter Dunn, aka IBJ columnist Pete the Planner, joins us to help focus on the meaning behind rising bond yields. He also discusses the duality that many Americans face in the current financial system, in which some folks thrive and others fall behind. You’ve probably heard it referred to as the K-shaped economy.
Developer Tag Birge unfolds his philanthropic strategy for disadvantaged students, public art
IBJ celebrated philanthropy, nonprofit organizations and the businesses who support them at our second annual Nonprofit Excellence Awards event on Aug. 4 at the Indiana Roof Ballroom. During the event, IBJ reporter Dave Lindquist interviewed Taggart Birge, the 2025 winner of the Philanthropist of the Year Award. Tag, who is a real estate investor, and his wife annually support scholarships, education programs and public art, among other efforts. For this week’s IBJ Podcast, we bring you that conversation. Dave talks in detail with Tag about how he and his wife have settled on their philanthropic strategy and the personal connections that led them to focus particularly on helping disadvantaged students. And you’ll hear Tag answer questions submitted by those in the room at the event. You can find a full video of the 2026 Nonprofit Excellence Awards event here.
Why would a young couple from South Africa open a bookstore on Mass Ave?
For all of the people who have said at some point in their lives, “Wouldn’t it be fun to open a small bookstore,” consider the story of Julia Breakey and Jake Budler, a married couple who opened Tomorrow Bookstore on Mass Ave in 2023. They hurdled all of the concerns that likely dissuade most folks from following through. Questions like, “How do I get startup capital?” How do I compete with Amazon?” “Why try to sell printed books in an increasingly digital world?” And “How can I, a constitutionally introspective person, survive a career that requires intense customer service?” The origin story of Tomorrow Books seems all the more unlikely given that Breakey and Budler hail from South Africa and are in their very early 30s. But they had a built-in advantage, in that Jake has a wealth of expertise related to startups as an employee of a global firm that supports high-growth entrepreneurs. In this week’s edition of the podcast, Julia and Jake explain how they chose to settle in Indianapolis and open their own business, how they divide the duties of running a bookstore, how they found the right mix of financing and why they have embraced the recent wave of new independent booksellers in Indianapolis instead of considering them competitors.
Why is the Parkview Health system expanding into central Indiana?
On July 27, public officials in West Lafayette joined local business leaders and executives from the Fort Wayne-based Parkview Health system to break ground on the site of a planned $200 million hospital and medical office building expected to create 250 health care jobs. The Lafayette/West Lafayette area already is served by two hospitals in the IU Health and Franciscan Health systems, but the leaders assembled said the area’s growth made clear the need for the new facility. Meanwhile, Parkview has been working through an agreement with Lebanon-based Witham Health Services, which provides medical services to residents throughout Boone County, to join Parkview later this year. That would bring Witham’s hospital under Parkview’s purview, as well as several clinics across the area. Parkview is also building a freestanding emergency department and urgent care facility in Marion. And Parkview and Noblesville-based Riverview Health are nearly a year into a managed-services agreement aimed at getting the struggling county-owned hospital system’s finances in order. Parkview started growing outside of the Fort Wayne area in 1995 and now counts more than a dozen hospitals, medical centers and health institutes across northern Indiana and northwest Ohio. And It’s looking to continue to expand. In this week’s podcast, Dr. Greg Johnson and John Bowen, two Parkview executives leading the system’s growth, discuss the push into central Indiana and what makes it attractive for expansion. They also cover how they determine demand for another market player, what they think differentiates Parkview from other systems, and how they plan to staff the West Lafayette hospital.
Acclaimed reporter took a buyout and quit the business. He returned as one-man news bureau.
Here's an amazing second act in the career of an Indiana journalism luminary. Longtime subscribers to the Lafayette Journal and Courier newspaper read the work of Dave Bangert over 32 years in his roles as a reporter, editor and columnist. He was so highly regarded that in early 2021 he became one of a handful of journalists to receive the Sagamore of the Wabash. That’s a statewide honor awarded by the governor for outstanding leadership, achievements and/or civic contributions. One could assume it was meant as a career capper. Bangert had taken a buyout from newspaper owner Gannett in late 2020, with vague plans to get a normal day job for several years until hitting typical retirement age. That’s not what happened. Within a few months he received a few obvious signs that his news career might not be over. He soon started carving out a home for himself on the online Substack platform named Based in Lafayette, allowing him to create a news website and shoot stories to subscribers via email. He quickly became a one-man news bureau for Lafayette, West Lafayette and the rest of Tippecanoe County, making all the editorial decisions himself and leveraging sources he developed over three decades. He has nearly 10,000 subscribers between two basic tiers — some who receive a limited amount of content for free and others who pay a fee to see everything. (The latter options are $7 per month, $70 per year or $150 per year.) He works just as hard as he did for the Journal and Courier, but now it’s all on his own terms. In this week’s episode of the podcast, Bangert explains how he knew it was time to get back in the game, how he assembled the business plan, how he covers his turf as a one-man band and what he has learned about the news business from his view on Substack.
Entrepreneur with ADHD used AI to stay on track. Now it’s a core part of his company.
Josh Driver, CEO of Indianapolis-based Selflessly, jokes that he’s practically in a common law marriage with his AI assistant, named Phil. (That’s short for “philanthropy,” which is Selflessly’s focus.) They’re a good match: Phil handles much of the administrative drudgery and helps clients figure out their philanthropic strategies so Driver can stay focused on big-picture strategy and client relations. But they get into the occasional tiff, and Phil can overstep his bounds. In fact, he recently went way off script with a client. Such an episode points up the risks in turning over so much responsibility to AI. But Driver sees Phil as an indispensable tool and interwove it into Selflessly’s recent from-the-ground-up platform rebuild. His interest in AI’s potential was piqued once he began using it to bypass some of the pitfalls of having attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder. Recent episodes of the IBJ Podcast have focused on potential long-term risks of the widespread use of AI. In this week’s edition, we use Selflessly as a case study in how AI is being used by a small business right now. Driver also discusses his early career in emergency medicine — specifically, burn and wound care — and how that led him to technology and nonprofits.
Trump warns our elections are vulnerable. What is Indiana doing to secure midterms?
Election Day is scheduled for Nov. 3, so we’re just a bit more than three months away. This is the midterms, so there’s a lot at stake at the federal and state levels, in additional to many referendums for local school districts. On July 16, President Trump delivered a 26-minute prime-time address about election security, warning us that our elections are vulnerable to fraud and need immediate attention. Among his claims, Trump said China was able to acquire 220 million U.S. voter files in 2020 and wants to exploit that data. He also said a Department of Homeland Security investigation found that 278,000 noncitizens are registered to vote in federal elections. Regular listeners of the IBJ Podcast know we already had scheduled a return visit with Chetrice Romero, senior cybersecurity adviser for law firm Ice Miller, to talk specifically about election security, so the president’s address gave us even more grist for the mill. Romero has worked extensively with the state and federal government on election security and is currently consulting with state and county officials on November’s election. In this week’s edition of IBJ Podcast, she starts off by putting Trump’s comments in context and gauging the threat level of his claims. She then goes in great detail explaining the many steps that local and state officials are taking in Indiana to secure the election. And she weighs in on proposals to go back to an all-paper voting system.
Indy Parks finishing citywide upgrades with $150M infusion. But what’s next, and what about new parks?
This is prime parks season for folks in Indianapolis who want to hit splash pads, climb jungle gyms or just grab some grass in the shade. What they’re finding is dozens of parks with new or improved trails, sports fields, shelters, bathrooms, water features and playgrounds. The Indy Parks Department is nearing the finish of $150 million in upgrades to about a third of its 218 parks, using a huge infusion of funds outside of its typical $6 million annual budget for capital improvements. Some of the projects are wholesale transformations, such as turning Riverside Golf Course into Riverside Adventure Park. Some are more modest but perform the essential service of providing safe and modern playgrounds for neighborhood kids. In this week’s edition of the IBJ Podcast, Indy Parks leaders Brittany Crone and Andre Denman discuss the funding and execution of this extraordinary wave of upgrades and how several of the biggest projects came about. They also tackle the question of what comes next, given the size of the annual capital improvements budget. And they discuss the likelihood of creating new parks in a city with some recreation gaps.
Pete the Planner on Trump’s idea for rescuing Social Security and who picks up the tab
According to a report last month from the Social Security Administration, the trust fund that the government uses to help pay out benefits to retirees is expected to run out in late 2032. At that point, Social Security will only be able to pay 78% of your scheduled retirement benefits. This isn’t a surprise: We’ve known for many years it eventually would happen, but there hasn’t been enough political will in Washington, D.C., to rescue the system. Late last year, President Trump began making references to the public retirement system used by Australia. On July 6, Trump made his most definitive declaration yet, saying his administration is looking at adopting the Australian system — or at least elements of the Australian system — and would try to get Congress onboard. There is no magic wand in this scenario. Merging one system into another – or adding a giant appendage to the current system – wouldn’t be easy. As IBJ financial columnist Peter Dunn says in this week’s podcast, there could be significant tradeoffs. But who should take the biggest hit? In this week's discussion, Pete takes the point of view of employers and host Mason King has the perspective of someone who plans to retire soon. They also also hash out the viability of tweaking the current Social Security system to get the fund back on track.
He left the Fortune 500 fast track for local nonprofits and to help men be better fathers
Larry Smith grew up on the east side of Indianapolis. After graduating from Southport High School and then Williams College, he landed at Fortune 500 engine maker Cummins Inc. and quickly found himself on the fast track to upper management. By his early 30s he already was director of corporate strategy, but he felt a strong calling to a different path. Smith switched gears and started a distinguished career in the Indy area’s nonprofit sector, holding leadership positions with such organizations as Lilly Family School of Philanthropy at Indiana University, YMCA of Greater Indianapolis, Indiana University’s Randall L. Tobias Center for Leadership Excellence and the Hamilton County Community Foundation. Then, in 2022, he received another calling – this one through actual phone calls and text messages – to take over as president and CEO of Fathers and Families Center, a modest Indianapolis nonprofit that provides counseling and other resources to help men become better fathers and stabilize their families. The mission harmonized with Smith’s lived experience, since he grew up without a father and himself became a father when he was 16. On this week’s podcast, Smith lays out his plans to continue growing the capacity of the center with hopes of doubling the number of men served by its programs. To that end, it is in final stages of a $5.5 million fundraising campaign and preparing to move into a new headquarters near the Children’s Museum. Smith also explains his strategy for doubling revenue within five years or so, including a new focus on individual contributions.
Indy cybersecurity expert on preparing for impending AI threat to businesses
Last week, an international alliance of intelligence agencies released a warning about the evolution of AI and how it soon will be able to overwhelm cyber protections used by governments and businesses. This will happen within a matter of months, according to the group, and companies should take an all-hands on deck approach to the threat. That means significant involvement from owners, top executives and other leaders. To get a sense of the gravity of the warning, IBJ Podcast host Mason King invited cybersecurity expert Chetrice Romero to be the guest this week. Romero started her career in public relations but developed expertise in cybersecurity as a state and federal employee. Her positions have included cybersecurity program director for the Indiana Office of Technology and the Indiana Department of Homeland Security, and cybersecurity adviser and state coordinator for the federal Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency. She currently works for the law firm Ice Miller, helping clients prepare for cyber attacks and their aftermath. In this week’s podcast, Romero explains the risks involved in the looming AI-related threat and why the time to prepare is now. She also shares what she learned from her somber experience on the search and rescue task force responding to the Surfside condo building collapse in 2021.
Immigration law firm swells from one-man band to 137 employees, thousands of cases
In 2009, a freshly graduated Jason Flora opened a law firm in a tiny office on the west side of Indianapolis near Hispanic-run car lots, Honduran restaurants and Guatemalan grocery stores. In its early days, the firm was a one-man shop, with Flora, who speaks Spanish fluently, working 60 hours or more a week and often driving back and forth between Chicago’s immigration court and his office. Last month, Flora Legal Group ranked No. 3 on IBJ’s list of the region’s fastest-growing companies based on its two-year growth, which ballooned 250%. It now has 23 attorneys among its nearly 140 full-time employees, who handle thousands of cases per year. And yet the firm’s mission is essentially the same as it was in 2009: to protect the rights of immigrants and provide the legal services they need — particularly in immigration cases — to make their lives better and more prosperous. In this week’s edition of the IBJ Podcast, Flora expounds on the evolution of his firm. As he explains it, one of the reasons he started his career as a street lawyer was due to the lack of interest from recruiters in established law firms. And he delves into how he learned he could be more valuable by pursuing more growth for the firm than he could by spending all of his time practicing law.
Indy-based tech exec on joining global firm, being remote-only leader
Darin Brown is an executive for a global software testing firm with hundreds of employees and a roster of some 80,000 freelancers. But to do his job, he doesn’t have to leave his home in Westfield, Indiana. The firm, known as Testlio, is one of an increasing number of companies that don’t have physical home bases and instead let employees work entirely remotely. Brown recently had the same arrangement when he worked for Zoom, the company virtually synonymous with remote work. In 2022, Zoom acquired a startup that Brown co-founded in central Indiana which led to him being named Zoom’s head of product for productivity applications. He left Zoom earlier this year to be Testlio’s chief product and technology officer. Brown boasts a distinguished career in the Indianapolis area tech community as a project manager and developer. The list of companies includes ChaCha Search, ExactTarget, Salesforce and then Angie’s List, where he was chief technology officer. There he found a problem that he was inspired to solve by co-founding the startup Docket, which then led him to Zoom. In this week’s podcast, Brown discusses his new position with Testlio, his tenure with Zoom and how he made the transition at mid-career from supervising team members in the office to being an online-only leader.
Indy Pride chair talks festival changes, political backdrop and financial challenges
In this week’s edition of the IBJ Podcast, Indy Pride Inc. board Chair Alex Richardson previews the June 13 parade on Massachusetts Avenue and a revamped festival footprint spanning Military Park and White River State Park as the nonprofit marches forward under new leadership. Richardson, a DePauw University faculty member who became board chair in December, discusses the January hire of Executive Director Jennifer Carruthers, who previously led Capital City Pride in Des Moines. Richardson also addresses the financial pressures facing Indy Pride, including a $210,000 budget shortfall in 2024 tied in part to reduced corporate sponsorship, and explains how new individual giving programs and small-business outreach aim to close that gap. This year’s events will include a Saturday night concert featuring headliners Todrick Hall, Brooke Eden and Crystal Waters, in addition to a New York City ballroom showcase rooted in the Harlem ballroom scene of the early 1970s. Richardson also responds to Gov. Mike Braun's proclamation of June as "Nuclear Family Month.”
Pete the Planner on why Americans feel broke at $150,000 a year
Hitting six figures in household income is a powerful milestone. You are situated comfortably in the middle class, which in the U.S. is currently defined as making $56,000 to $168,000 per year. If we want to zoom in on Indiana, the parameters for the middle class are $48,000 to $144,000 per year. We all know that the cost of living is rising faster and higher than anyone wants, but doesn’t it seem like you should be able to make it work on six figures per year? Over the last couple of years, a national conversation has been brewing online about why some people who make as much as $150,000 per year feel like they’re barely getting by. And consumer sentiment just last week hit its lowest point in at least 50 years. Pete the Planner isn’t here to judge. His computations show how easy it can be for the finances for a $150,000 household to go off the rails. One unexpected blow to your budget for housing, transportation, child care or essentials like food can make it feel like the ceiling is caving in. At the same time, we need to consider whether the expenses we believe are necessary are actually the result in our culture of normalizing overconsumption. Pete is our guest this week to explain the math behind the financial struggles for $150,000 households and provide some guidance – with a dose of straight talk – about reducing expenses.
After firm’s $50M sale, co-founder was done with startups. Then AI pulled him back in.
Santiago Jaramillo has been the subject of – or at least mentioned in – 44 articles in the Indianapolis Business Journal, including several columns he wrote about entrepreneurism. The stories largely appeared between 2013 and 2021, while he was building, running and exiting two Indianapolis-area tech companies. After the second firm, known as Emplify, was acquired for $50 million in 2021, Jaramillo had a severe case of burnout. He went on an extended sabbatical, planning to forego any future forays into founding startups. Then ChatGPT dropped. Suddenly entrepreneurs and executives had widespread access to artificial intelligence tools, and Jaramillo quickly saw their potential for transforming businesses and the workflows of their employees. The pull eventually proved too great. Jaramillo co-founded a firm named Pragmatico to help companies make the leap into AI in a way that sticks. In this week’s podcast, Jaramillo takes us on his entrepreneurial journey, which began in Colombia, South America, where he narrowly avoided a kidnapping. His career took turns through Florida, Indiana and Australia before settling back in the Hoosier state. Jaramillo also discusses why he decided to get back in the game, the reasons why many firms have trouble adopting AI and why the technology shouldn’t be set loose without human judgement as a guide.
IBJ’s editor on making mistakes, combatting bias, diversifying revenue
We at the Indianapolis Business Journal committed a serious error earlier this month that created significant problems for one of central Indiana’s most important not-for-profit organizations. If you listened to last week’s podcast, you have a sense of what happened. In the interest of transparency, IBJ Editor Lesley Weidenbener explained in her latest column how the error occurred and how that affected the organization. The column opens a window to the workings of the IBJ newsroom and the potential for multiple editors to miss a red flag when moving quickly to break news. For this week's episode, host Mason King recruited Weidenbener to throw open the curtains and give you an even broader look inside IBJ. In this week's episode, she addresses the error, some of the questions posed regularly about IBJ's financial health, and how its leaders maintain barriers between the newsroom, advertisers and the politics of IBJ’s owner and CEO.
Indiana Black Expo’s CEO on Circle City Classic’s gridiron shift and creating hoops invitational
Founded in 1970, Indiana Black Expo has broad brand recognition for its 10-day Summer Celebration, which highlights Black culture and elevation. But the umbrella not-for-profit organization operates 365 days a year, acting as a voice and vehicle for the social and economic advancement of Black youths and families. The other high-profile annual event hosted by IBE is the Circle City Classic, which typically features a football game between two historically black colleges or universities, along with a downtown parade and events focused on education, careers and culture. Last week, IBE announced a change at the heart of the Classic amid declining attendance, as well as the addition of a new event that would bring basketball teams from HBCUs to Indianapolis. CEO Alice Watson is our guest this week to explain in detail the economic tensions behind the switch this fall from college football programs to Indianapolis-based high school teams, including the $750,000-plus price tag IBE faced to recruit college teams and their bands this year. She also delves into the creation of an HBCU basketball invitational for 2027, which is expected to be more affordable for attracting programs. And she takes a deep dive into all of the educational programming and scholarships IBE offers throughout the year without nearly as much fanfare.
Why do some big companies fail at meaningful innovation?
Virtually every large or medium-sized company today says it’s dedicated to innovation, especially in light of the generational disruption in business created by artificial intelligence. But “innovative” is a broad and squishy term. One company’s so-called “cutting-edge development” might look to another like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. Elliott Parker of Indianapolis-based startup builder Alloy Partners has seen many examples of what he calls “the illusion of innovation” – meaning corporate attempts at change that are either mostly for show or that don’t go nearly far enough to make a real impact. Indeed, Parker says, large companies often are unable to innovate their business models because they’re designed and incentivized to keep doing the thing they’re successful at doing. For the owners, executives and managers who are truly interested in making big bets on innovation and challenging dogma within their businesses, what will work? Parker is our guest this week to talk about his book, titled “The Illusion of Innovation,” and how companies can evade the traps. He also discusses how the recent explosion in AI is altering the innovation ecosystem and how companies are built and run. Parker says he’s optimistic, although “things are going to get very, very weird very quickly.”
Final Four co-chairs debrief on Post Malone, Fan Fest, coach swag and what it all meant
Earlier this month, Indianapolis wrapped up its ninth Final Four since 1980 — a Herculean hosting gig that requires thousands of volunteers and flawless coordination between the NCAA, the city of Indianapolis, hospitality officials, transportation services, public safety workers, a bunch of colleges and an untold number of vendors. Near the top of the organizational chart were the co-chairs of the local organizing committee — Judith Thomas and Nate Feltman. The world saw the basketball action online and on TV, and many in Indianapolis experienced big attractions staged in concert with the Final Four, including a three-day music festival witnessed by tens of thousands of fans. In this edition of the podcast, Thomas and Feltman take us behind the scenes of the three-year planning process and then the week of the event as plans played out in sometimes unexpected or poignant ways. For example, Feltman became a wingman of sorts for superstar Post Malone. Thomas, who attended Indy’s first Final Four in 1980, clearly saw her career arc from that experience to the convention industry, her role as deputy mayor, CEO of the Indy Arts Council and committee co-chair. Feltman, owner and CEO of IBJ Media, also experienced a change of heart on the city's lead role in financing the 800-room Signia by Hilton hotel, now nearing completion.
Indianapolis criminal defense attorney Jim Voyles Jr. on representing Mike Tyson, the Indianapolis 500 and his new book
Indianapolis attorney Jim Voyles gives each of his clients a card that reads, “Stop talking.” And Voyles is hardly what you’d consider a chatty guy in public, due in large part to the sensitive nature of his cases as one of the Midwest’s premier criminal defense attorneys. His clients sometimes are accustomed to having public platforms, so prescribing silence might be a challenge. Voyles has represented members of the Indianapolis Colts, including Pat McAfee, and members of the Indiana Pacers, including a participant in the infamous Malice in the Palace incident. He also served as local counsel for Mike Tyson during the boxer’s sexual assault trial in Indianapolis. After more than five decades practicing law, Voyles has co-authored a legal memoir titled "All Rise: My Life in Trials with the Famous, Infamous and the Misunderstood.” He recently made himself available for an interview with reporter Maura Johnson of IBJ sib The Indiana Lawyer for the publication’s eponymous podcast. We’re sharing it with IBJ Podcast listeners this week to provide a rare, first-hand account of Voyle’s career, his devotion to the Sixth Amendment and his lifelong passion for motorsports.
Indians CEO on putting butts in seats at Victory Field, grinding it out
Here are a few tidbits the Indianapolis Indians want you to know this season. When it comes to professional sports in Indianapolis, the minor league baseball team is older than the Indianapolis 500 and has lapped both the Pacers and the Colts at least once. Likewise, Victory Field, which remains one of the great jewels in minor league baseball, is now older than Market Square Arena and the Hoosier/RCA Dome when they met their ends. And there’s no reason to fear for Victory Field’s fate: The Indians have been profitable every year for many decades, with the sole exception of 2020, and are always at the top or near the top of the minor league for attendance. Team operations had been under the control of the Schumacher family for many decades before 2024, when longtime executive Randy Lewandowski took over as president and CEO. The primary mission, as he puts it, is to put butts in seats while making sure those seats and the rest of the ballpark are pristine. Great players come and go, so the marketing pitch needs to focus on the Indians as an experience. Lewandowski is our guest this week to talk about the team’s revenue streams and the challenge of losing your most marketable players just as their hitting their strides. He also discusses his career in college baseball, how he found a position with the Indians organization in 1994 and then cut his teeth as director of operations at the brand-new Victory Field just a few years later.
Pete the Planner on the chances for recession, plus petrodollars, mortgage rates and TACO trades
The U.S. economy has been sending troubling signals for months now in the form of high energy prices, rising inflation, modest hiring and slowing growth of gross domestic product. The United States began attacks on Iran in late February. Stalled tanker traffic at the Strait of Hormuz has disrupted the global oil market, and stock investors have yo-yoed along with mixed signals from Washington, D.C., about America’s goals for the war. IBJ personal finance columnist Pete the Planner sees signs that point toward recession in the U.S., as well as a humanitarian crisis in Asia. In this week’s podcast, Pete parses a passel of new challenges and layers on the potential impact of tariff refunds and rising mortgage rates. He also is concerned about the Trump administration’s apparent attempts at influencing investor sentiment with statements about America’s intentions in Iran.
Mitch Daniels on bringing Purdue biz programs to downtown Indy; plus AI, Social Security
This week's guest is Mitch Daniels, former governor of the state of Indiana and president emeritus of Purdue University. Barely a month after Daniels’ departure from Purdue's top job in 2023, the university named its business school after its former president, creating the Mitch Daniels School of Business and embarking on changes in its curriculum to emphasize technology and elements of a classical education. Daniels maintains some involvement in the business school’s evolution and is particularly interested in the growth of its programs in downtown Indianapolis, following the split of IUPUI that he championed late in his presidency. In this week’s podcast, Daniels and host Mason King cover those developments and their potential benefits for Indianapolis. They then take a deeper dive into the ways artificial intelligence is threatening to disrupt the market for white-collar jobs, and particularly entry-level positions. They also explore one of the biggest political, academic and economic debates of the last decade: What is the value of a college degree? Then, just for good measure, Daniels runs through his ideas for fixing Social Security.
Downtown barbershop owner anticipating Final Four, new hotels, 'big boom ahead'
Although it looks like a time capsule from the 1930s, Red’s Classic Barber Shop in downtown Indianapolis was founded in 2007 by Alexandra Ridgway, Michael Ridgway and Roy Stevenson. They wanted to transport customers back to the era of traditional gentlemen’s barbering, populating it with antique furniture, equipment and supplies. In 2022, Red’s was purchased by William Hogg, a barber who has been managing the shop since its early days. He sometimes can be seen cutting the hair of prominent Indiana politicians, and his client list has included our four most recent governors. For this week's podcast, Hogg took a break between appointments to discuss how Red’s benefits from downtown’s big tourism events (including the upcomning Final Four), as well as the recent surges in residential and hotel development. He also digs into the value of the shop’s location at the literal crossroads of the Midwest as Red’s claws its way back from the pandemic years. And he shares his street-level perspective on the growth of downtown over nearly two decades and whether it’s as dangerous as some have persistently portrayed it.
What are the opportunities for humans as AI impacts workforce?
Jamie Merisotis, president and CEO of Indianapolis-based Lumina Foundation, is one of the nation’s top experts on providing access to higher education and the ways higher education can prepare the future workforce. Several years ago, he realized how the rapidly accelerating development of artificial intelligence could profoundly impact these two vital currents of American life. In 2020 he published a book titled “Human Work in the Age of Smart Machines,” warning that the roles of workers will radically shift and spotlighting the need to redesign education, training and the workplace as a whole. Today, he admits he underestimated the speed of change due to AI. Last month, he delivered an address to the Economic Club of Indiana about what it means for jobs, education and the economy. On this week’s episode of the IBJ Podcast, Merisotis and host Mason King dig deeper into his conclusions. Number one: AI is here to stay. We humans need to focus on how we can complement AI and excel at work best handled with human traits and skills as AI begins to encroach on the turf of even C-suite executives. In the meantime, higher education must go undergo radical transformation.
Originally on path to be preacher, Damar CEO leads efforts to aid thousands per day
Jim Dalton grew up in Indianapolis in a devout, church-going family. He entered college thinking he would become a preacher, but another career path made itself clear – one in which he’d be able to serve and guide children to healthier and happier lives. He didn’t know at the time that he eventually would be able to have an impact on thousands of people every day. Today he is just the third president and CEO of Indianapolis-based Damar Services, a 59-year-old nonprofit that provides essential support for adults and children with intellectual and developmental disabilities. He joined Damar as chief operating officer in 2002 and became CEO in 2013. Over that 24 years, the organization’s annual budget has grown from about $4 million to more than $140 million, and its employee count has grown from 67 to about 1,400, directly serving about 1,800 clients per day. It recently expanded from central Indiana to East Chicago and just launched operations in Richmond. Dalton is our guest this week to talk about his evolution from child psychologist to chief executive of one of central Indiana’s largest nonprofits. He also explains the aggressive strategy behind Damar’s expansion, which in a sense boils down this: “If there are still people who need our services, we should expand to meet them.” Here’s our conversation.
Inside Christel House’s plan to expand its global network of schools
Let’s go back about three decades to the mid-1990s when Indianapolis businesswoman Christel Dehaan sold her company Resort Condominiums International for $825 million. With a new focus on philanthropy and education, DeHaan created Christel House International, a global network of schools with a mission to not only educate its low-income students but to provide the necessary nutrition, health care and career mentoring – even after graduation – to help them break the cycle of poverty. DeHaan established Christel House schools in Indianapolis, Mexico, South Africa, Jamaica and India before her death in 2020.Today, the network is entering a new era of growth. David Harris, probably best known in Indianapolis as the founding CEO of education reform group The Mind Trust, became Christel House’s president and CEO in 2024, succeeding former Indianapolis Mayor Bart Peterson. Harris soon established a new plan for expansion that calls for boosting Christel House’s presence in countries where it already operates while opening new schools in Colombia and Nepal. In this week’s episode of the podcast, Harris discusses the challenges of continuing Christel House’s mission without its founder, how it now finances its mission, the organization’s process for establishing schools from scratch in new countries and the expansion of a global program that’s now helping students from four Indianapolis high schools succeed after graduation.
How Mom Water got hot, and the answer to, 'Am I the best person to be CEO?'
The canned cocktail known as Mom Water, created by a husband-and-wife team in a small Indiana town, sounds like one of the purest mom-and-pop success stories in state history. The only part of the narrative that doesn’t seem to fit is that Mom Water doesn’t pop, per se—it’s non-carbonated, which set it apart from alcoholic seltzers. Jill and Bryce Morrison created the beverage and the brand several years ago, and it hit the shelves of a few local retailers in March 2021. It's now available in 40 states at retailers including Target, Walmart, Meijer and Whole Foods. The Morrisons didn’t set out make this their careers, but Mom Water’s quick success persuaded them to quit their day jobs. A couple of years later, Bryce decided he needed to step aside as CEO and install a new chief executive to handle day-to-day operations while he and Jill looked at bigger-picture strategy while gathering input from customers face-to-face. They are our guest on the IBJ Podcast this week, and, as they tell it, they’re more of a seat-of-your pants enterprise run by gut hunches than one that invests in megabytes of market research. They also discuss their leap of faith, the wisdom in handing over the CEO reins, and the creation of their new product based on unsweetened tea.
BiomEdit CEO offers peek behind $18.4M fundraising round
Fishers-based BiomEdit — a startup that spun out of Elanco Animal Health in 2022 — last year raised $18.4 million in a series B round. That’s despite what was a tough year overall for fundraising — nationwide and in Indiana. In this week’s episode, BiomEdit CEO and founder Aaron Schacht talks about the strategy behind the round and the changes the animal health startup had to make to secure the money it needed to bring its first product to market, which should happen this fall. You can find similar conversations and information about VC funding in The Deal, IBJ’s newest weekly newsletter covering venture capital, mergers and acquisitions, private equity, government contracts and the people who make those deals happen. Sign up for the newsletter at IBJ.com.
City-County Council’s new chief of staff on role models, soft power and public policy
Doran Moreland grew up in Indianapolis, fell in love with politics and public policy at a relatively young age and became the special assistant for Mayor Bart Peterson after studying political science at Indiana University. That’s a pretty good introduction to how politics and policy work on the local level. Fast forward a quarter century or so: On Monday, Feb. 2, Moreland returned to the City-County Building for the first day of his new job as chief of staff and chief policy officer for the City-County Council. The 25-member council dominated by Democrats has new leaders, including President Maggie Lewis, who have said they want to emphasize policymaking, collaboration and transparency after instances of internal infighting last year.Moreland’s new job has nuts-and-bolts aspects like budgeting, managing staff, maintaining community access and helping push the council’s initiatives across the finish line. It also entails supplying higher-level policy guidance on topics like data centers, inclusive growth, the city’s built environment and maintaining competitiveness. In this week’s episode of the podcast, he discusses the lessons learned from his father as a small business owner, his own foray into business, the administrative and public policy experience he’s gained since then and what he expects from his new position. [Editor's note: This text has been changed to reflect that Moreland did not receive a degree from Indiana University in 2000. His degree ultimately was conferred in 2024.]
Pete the Planner: 'Stocks are at all-time highs, so why am I terrified about the future?’
According to the latest federal data, the U.S. economy is chugging along at a strong clip, unemployment is under control, the prices of consumer goods are increasing at a fairly typical rate, and interest rates for mortgages are steadily dropping. Plus, the stock market is regularly hitting all-time highs. What’s there to worry about? The Consumer Confidence Index, which is used to measure how consumers feel about their expected financial situation, is at its lowest point since 2014. Specifically, Americans’ short-term expectations for their incomes, business conditions and the job market have fallen well below the marker that could signal a recession. The misalignment of the big picture numbers and how consumers feel might indicate that not everyone is benefitting from the positive economic indicators. Throw on top of that the amount of anxiety Americans feel about polarized politics, a recent wave of five-figure layoffs at large U.S. firms, and data pointing toward a bear market, and you can appreciate any undercurrent of pessimism. On this week's edition of the podcast, Pete the Planner and host Mason King discuss the role that our feelings can play in our financial decisions even when we’re presented with cold, hard data. To that point, they discuss the return of the vibecession, a term describing the disconnect between positive economic indicators and the public's negative perception of the economy and how they’re doing. Fear can inspire some people to eliminate all risk in their investments, which isn’t necessarily a good idea.
IBJ owner Nate Feltman, reporter Dave Lindquist talk IU championship
It has been a week since Indiana University won the College Football Playoff national championship and Hoosier fans are still celebrating. On the podcast this week, guest host Lesley Weidenbener talks with two people with different perspectives on the game between IU and the University of Miami at Hard Rock Stadium in Miami. First up will be Nate Feltman, the owner and publisher of IBJ Media. He’s an IU graduate—with three degrees, in fact—and very active with the university. He went to the Rose Bowl in California, the Peach Bowl in Atlanta and the title game in Miami. Nate tells us about those experiences and explains why he decided that IBJ should send a reporter to Miami. And then Lesley talks with that reporter—Dave Lindquist—about his experiences at the game. Dave is not an IU grad and has not been to IU football games. But he has covered the hoopla surrounding many of the biggest sporting events that have taken place in Indianapolis. So he has an interesting perspective on the events in Miami. Click here to see some of the photos that Dave took during his trip to Miami. And here’s the link to the video Dave mentions that shows IU coach Curt Cignetti on the Big Ten Network’s Postgame Show. You can spot Dave in a dark jacket in the background of the shot at the beginning of the video.
Explaining the blitz of news about the Bears’ potential move to Indiana
The Colts are done for the year, but news is heating up about the potential for the Chicago Bears to move their stadium to Indiana, Here’s the scouting report: The Bears want a new stadium. They say Soldier Field isn’t cutting it anymore. They’ve purchased a huge site in one of Chicago’s suburbs that formerly was home to a racetrack. The team says it's willing to pay for stadium construction, but the team needs the Illinois Legislature to help pave the way with about $855 million in infrastructure improvements and by approving a bill that would enable a long-term property tax deal. In December, Bears President and CEO Kevin Warren announced that the team wasn’t getting anywhere with the Illinois Legislature and that it was expanding its search for a new stadium site to include northwest Indiana. Indiana Gov. Mike Braun and local officials in the area immediately jumped at the opening and the chance to get the ball rolling. There was a healthy amount of skepticism that the Bears were namechecking Indiana simply to get leverage with Illinois. But several surprising developments in the last two weeks show that Indiana is moving quickly to lay the groundwork for a stadium, the Bears are giving the state serious consideration and that some Illinois officials are seriously concerned about losing the team. In this episode of the IBJ Podcast, we’ll review the moves made by the Bears and Indiana officials that have brought us to this point. We have two guests: We’ll first hear from Marc Ganis, a consultant for pro sports teams who has lived in Chicago for three decades; and then we’ll hear from Mickey Shuey, who covers real estate and sports business for IBJ.
Indy-centric arts and culture offerings to circle on your calendar
We’re all familiar with the way city and state officials have hitched central Indiana’s economic wagon to sports and tourism. Arts and entertainment have received less focus over that time, but the sports/tourism strategy has paid fringe benefits by making Indy a more viable option for A-list stars on tour and helping to elevate the city’s profile. It also has provided many opportunities for local artists and performers. The latest case in point is Indy’s hosting gig for the NCAA’s Final Four in April, which will include a series of concerts for big stars and smaller shows for homegrown talents. Meanwhile, a local actor has made a dramatic entrance on the Hollywood awards circuit—Chase Infinity from “One Battle After Another”—which in its way helps plug Indy as a conduit for top talent. Indianapolis also plays a role in a new movie from two-time Oscar-nominated director Gus Van Sant about the Tony Kiritsis hostage crisis in 1977. And the city is about to get several new arts venues, providing more opportunities for expression and inspiration. IBJ arts and entertainment reporter Dave Lindquist recently crafted a list of some of the best ways Indy-area residents can soak in culture in 2026. He’s the guest on this week’s IBJ Podcast to talk about “Dead Man’s Wire,” David Byrne, the Contemporary Art Museum of Indianapolis, cowboy couture, listening rooms and more.
'I joke that I went from selling paper money to toilet paper,' says former banker
Originally aired 8-25-2025. Cindy Schum grew up in a troubled family situation and, as she describes herself today, was terribly shy and awkward. Still, she found ways to put herself in situations that could help her be more outgoing. She was great at working with numbers, and she gravitated to a career in commercial lending that put her in front of business owners who loved to talk about how they made things work. She picked a heck of a time to jump from banking to buying a 104-year-old small business. She felt something vital was missing from her career, and her husband, Brad, persuaded her to purchase a company in 2019 in the less-than-glamorous janitorial-supply industry. She knew from her experience evaluating company financials and acquisitions that the numbers looked good. And when the pandemic hit several months later, Schum found herself in a position to help customers struggling with the sudden disruption. Still, Schum’s plans to grow A.G. Maas Supply Co. were delayed. But its headcount has swelled from two employees to 10 over the past six years, and its annual revenue has jumped 250%. Its core business is procurement—connecting customers in the utility, education, manufacturing and hospitality industries with the right suppliers of cleaning and safety products, office tools and facility furnishings. After some early trepidation, Schum learned that her career in banking perfectly prepared her for entrepreneurship. Whether you’re talking about banknotes or toilet paper, she says in this week’s episode of the IBJ Podcast that it all comes down to relationships.
World Cup team could call Westfield home; plus, progress reports on downtown projects
In the third consecutive episode with updates on major stories from the past year, this week's IBJ Podcast features IBJ’s Mickey Shuey, who covers real estate, hospitality and the business of sports. In the first half of the episode, Shuey reveals what’s been going on behind the scenes in Westfield as cities across North America prepare to host matches this summer for the 2026 Men’s World Cup. Central Indiana is out of the running as a match site, but Shuey reports in the latest issue of IBJ that Westfield’s gargantuan Grand Park Sports Campus has been named one of the available base camps for teams competing in the Cup. On the podcast, Shuey discusses the logistics of being the home base for a World Cup team, what the teams are looking for and what attribute of Grand Park might make it less appealing. In the second half of the episode, Shuey digs into his notebooks to give us progress reports on many of the major construction projects downtown, including the $600 million overhaul of Circle Centre Mall and the $4.3 billion IU Health hospital campus. Even more intriguing, he addresses significant downtown projects still in the proposal stage: a stadium for the Major League Soccer team the city wants to establish and a casino that would use the gaming license of the Rising Star Casino in southeast Indiana.
The 'difficult, complex work' of extending life expectancy in five Indy neighborhoods
IBJ Podcast host Mason King first interviewed Jamal Smith late in 2024 about an ambitious initiative to do no less than increase the life expectancy of residents in a set of historic neighborhoods in Marion County. You know the neighborhoods as Crown Hill, Historic Flanner House Homes, Highland Vicinity, Meridian Highland and Ransom Place. They contain in total more than 9,000 residents who, due to a number of socio-economic factors, have a much lower life expectancy than other Indy residents. The neighborhoods are immediately north, west and south of the $4.3 billion IU Health hospital campus under construction downtown. Smith is the executive director of the nonprofit group Indy Health District, which was formally launched a year ago by IU Health in collaboration with several adjacent community-minded organizations and representatives of the neighborhoods. Its most immediate goals include providing access to healthy food and quality education, investing in trails and other infrastructure, partnering on projects that create affordable housing and helping residents find gainful employment. Coordinating the many elements of the initiative with a staggering number of stakeholders requires elite powers of persuasion, communication and humility. Smith returns to the podcast this week with a one-year progress report, including updates on strategies that succeeded and situations where he needed to ask for grace and go back to the lab. And he shares the four main goals of the district’s newly composed strategic plan—the next steps toward the district’s ultimate goal.
Pete the Planner's predictions for housing, higher ed, energy and a potential tariff mess
We’re in the midst of the holidays—always a good time for reflection. And this week that means holding Pete the Planner accountable for bold predictions he made in January about the economy and U.S. fiscal policy in 2025. Pete hit a bunch of these out of the park—especially those related to Trumponomics—and he whiffed on several others. Because he’s a big-hearted guy not afraid of making mistakes, Pete this week presents his predictions for 2026, including positive portents for nuclear energy, his advance whiff of a stale housing market and a tough prognosis for higher education. His pick for the biggest story of 2026 might require some advance explanation. The U.S. Supreme Court is expected to decide soon whether President Trump’s emergency tariffs levied earlier this year are invalid. If the justices find that the president exceeded his authority by using emergency powers to impose tariffs on nearly every U.S. trading partner—which, to review, were paid by the companies that imported the products, not the countries or companies from which they came—the importers could be entitled to big refunds. As The Washington Post has reported, unwinding almost a year of Trump’s core economic policy likely could have serious consequences for the government’s finances and on the bottom lines of companies throughout the U.S. economy. It’s impossible to know how much money ultimately would be in play, but estimates of how much the U.S. had collected in emergency tariffs were close to $90 billion when the court heard arguments in early November.
You're a skeptical, penny-pinching CEO. What are your first steps for adopting AI?
2025 will probably go down as the year artificial intelligence became an inevitable aspect of our lives. Anyone wishing to use it as a research tool, business strategist, data filter, personal coach or just a chatty companion has easy access to the technology. Indeed, most of the biggest companies in the world have been implementing AI in one way or another. AI can help automate tasks, interpret data, predict needs, improve efficiency, assist customers, assist coders, generate social media content, manage communication and translate it into any known language. If your company isn’t at least investigating how it can integrate AI, leaders should at least have a compelling case for sitting on the sidelines. There are many reasons why companies are hesitant to take the plunge—or even get their feet wet. But those obstacles—including cost, employee resistance and lack of technical expertise—are easier to leap than you might think. In this week’s edition of the IBJ Podcast, host Mason King presents a series of scenarios from the point of view of an AI skeptic and asks a business education expert to respond to them. Our guest is Carolyn Goerner, faculty chair of executive education programs at Indiana University’s Kelley School of Business, which among many things teaches executives and other company leaders how to implement and use AI. She also goes into greater depth on how to coax reluctant employees to become AI adopters.
Buc-ee’s, Wally’s and Wawa converge on Indy as convenience stores become cultural forces
Convenience stores are having a cultural moment. It’s more than a moment, actually—but they do like to emphasize speed. And after decades of being the butts of culinary jokes, they now like to emphasize fresh, ready-to-eat food—as well as plenty of gas pumps, product inventories that could rival a small Walmart and sophisticated branding strategies that market them as immersive experiences instead of roadside quickie-marts. We soon should have a chance to sample a few of the biggest names. Buc-ee’s, Wally’s and Wawa are converging on the Indianapolis area—as would befit the crossroads of America. Wawa was the first to the Indy market with a store that opened in May, followed by several more local stores and plans for about a dozen in total. In terms of size, they’re definitely bigger than your typical 7-Eleven. IBJ recently broke the story that iconic Texas-based chain Buc-ee’s was close to sealing a deal for an Indy-area store potentially larger than a football field. And Illinois-based Wally’s, with a model strikingly similar in some ways to Buc-ee’s, recently provided an opening date for its 54,000-square-foot store under construction in Whitestown. For this week’s episode of the IBJ Podcast, we’ve invited an expert in the industry to discuss the sea change in the C-store marketplace and delve into the specific calling cards of each of these three brands. Jeff Lenard of the National Association of Convenience Stores tells us what to expect, where they make their profit, how they’re building devoted fan bases and why they see opportunity in central Indiana.
Percussionists beat path to Indianapolis to celebrate their craft
If you’re someone who believes the drummer is more than someone at the back of the stage who keeps time, this week’s Percussive Arts Society International Convention, otherwise known as PASIC, is your kind of event. Joshua Simonds, executive director of the Indianapolis-based Percussive Arts Society, says the artistry of drummers is celebrated at the four-day event. While Indianapolis is locked in to host PASIC through 2028, this year’s gathering carries landmark significance because it’s the 50th annual edition. Nearly 7,000 attendees, on target to set a new record, are expected to check out concerts, workshops and an exhibition hall. Drummers who play in the touring bands of Taylor Swift and Beyoncé will attend, but PASIC isn’t confined to mainstream sounds. The lineup spans world music, jazz, marching percussion and contemporary classical. In this week’s episode, IBJ arts reporter Dave Lindquist talks with Joshua Simonds about the event, scheduled Wednesday through Saturday.
What’s behind the Indiana Legislature’s special session on redistricting and how could it play out?
Gov. Mike Braun has called a special session of the Indiana Legislature, set to begin Monday, Nov. 3, that could make Indiana one of states to redraw its congressional maps before next year’s midterm elections. The Trump administration has lobbied Braun and Republican lawmakers since at least August to reapportion the state’s nine districts in hopes of engineering a GOP sweep next year. Indiana’s congressional delegation already is dominated by Republicans, but two of the state’s nine seats in the U.S. House of Representatives currently are held by Democrats. Braun called the special session despite a definitive report from Senate President Pro Tem Rodric Bray’s office that there wasn’t enough support in the Indiana Senate to redraw the maps. But Braun believes the votes will be there. In this edition of the IBJ Podcast, host Mason King is joined by two local journalists with significant experience covering the legislature to dissect the events that led to the special session and explain how it could play out. They also discuss the history of redistricting in Indiana and the decades-long battle to expand political power by changing boundaries on a map.
Pat East on the new buzz over buying businesses—and potential red flags
We’ve developed a romantic ideal of entrepreneurism in recent decades closely connected to startup culture and the brave souls who want to create something that can disrupt a product type or even a whole industry. But for a variety of reasons, a growing number of aspiring entrepreneurs of all ages are choosing to become business owners by acquiring a company rather than starting one from scratch. Among the benefits: Folks who acquire companies are working with products or services that already are proven in the marketplace. They can immediately start paying themselves from existing sales. And getting financing can be easier when your business has an established track record. Our guest this week on the IBJ Podcast is a great example of the surging interest in ETA—shorthand for entrepreneurship through acquisition. Pat East and his wife founded a digital marketing company from scratch in the early 2000s and turned it into a behemoth with 75 employees and $10 million in annual sales. They sold it in 2020, which allowed East to focus more on his other role as executive director at The Mill, a nonprofit Bloomington co-working space and entrepreneurship center. He recently stepped down from The Mill in hopes of getting back into business for himself, and he discovered that Indiana doesn’t have a very robust community for aspiring entrepreneurs interested in ETAs. So he’s hosting meetups across the state to help fill that gap while he searches for his opportunity. In this week’s podcast, East discusses his exit from Hanapin Marketing, provides tips for those considering ETAs and breaks down the warning signs entrepreneurs should beware.
Pete the Planner on what to do when you're furloughed
As the federal government shutdown drags on and thousands of federal workers are going without paychecks, we thought it would be a great time to check in with Peter Dunn about what to do if you’re suddenly laid off or facing a loss of income. Peter writes the Pete the Planner column and hosts the Pete the Planner podcast where he talks about money. He’s also the founder and CEO of Your Money Line, which provides workplace financial advice for companies across the country. He talked with IBJ Editor Lesley Weidenbener about the challenges facing federal workers for whom the future remains murky. And they discuss what those and other laid off or furloughed workers can do – and what they shouldn’t do – to address the situation.